tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post4242553415755837616..comments2023-07-17T08:06:33.140-04:00Comments on State of Grace: A REAL blog...Zen Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00986709498184115924noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-56222512416527084732008-03-06T19:06:00.000-05:002008-03-06T19:06:00.000-05:00Oh KC,Now I'm pretty sure neither DG nor Tigs vote...Oh KC,<BR/><BR/>Now I'm pretty sure neither DG nor Tigs voted for Senator Clinton. Though she is my obvious second choice. If she goes all the way and offeren Barack VP I would happily check the box. <BR/><BR/>Speaking of, we had some voter issues on Tue here as a woman was given an "Issues Only" ballot and cast it before getting to vote for the primary as a democrat. She had to vote provisionally.<BR/><BR/>I'm not very concerned about this Sharia law thing. Our country doesn't historically adopt foreign law as our own, although a little prison in Cuba does come to mind. But hey! When in Rome, yes? <BR/><BR/>We do like to impose our form of government and laws on other countries though, which we share with the UK, as unfortunately you know all too well I suppose being in Ireland :( Long live Colonialism!<BR/><BR/>ZZen Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00986709498184115924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-60203693305744821362008-03-06T15:58:00.000-05:002008-03-06T15:58:00.000-05:00And after your good and helpful advice through thi...And after your good and helpful advice through this post she STILL went and voted for Billary! ;-)<BR/>I read what DG had to say about Sharia Law - they are trying to bring it into force over here in the UK also. Not a good idea b/c then people will be able to choose what law they want to live under and if they find themselves in trouble under one they can switch to the other one. I believe that if someone comes to a country they should learn to abide by their adopted country's rules and regulations. I don't see that any Muslim countries would change their laws to suit 'western people' coming to live on their territories.Kingcoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416924407739626732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-62031338650981852652008-02-25T20:42:00.000-05:002008-02-25T20:42:00.000-05:00I agree with DG in the fact that gov't should stay...I agree with DG in the fact that gov't should stay out of health care. The state of Tennessee tried this whole pay for health care and it bankrupted the state. I just don't think our gov't is that efficient to run our health care system. Heck look at Social Security and Medicare.... they're a mess.<BR/><BR/>Having affordable health care is the option. Lest we forget it was those who went on a lawsuit happy jont that brought us some of our high prices. <BR/><BR/>I just hope and pray that who ever is elected by the majority knows where the American people stand.<BR/><BR/>I personally do not want national health care, illegal immigrants to get citizenship w/o being her legally, and for us to hastily pull out of the middle east. All those are important to me.<BR/><BR/>Again, we all agree to disagree and that's why the world goes around.Melanie Miday-Sternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01066635258362116624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-81941557301812409672008-02-24T17:57:00.000-05:002008-02-24T17:57:00.000-05:00Feeling better...I think I should like to go for a...Feeling better...I think I should like to go for a walk!<BR/><BR/>Sorry. That's from Holy Grail which we watched a few weeks ago. I'm not quite up for walking yet but finally am able to walk further away than my WC.<BR/><BR/>I do appreciate our differences. I think as you go on through your 30's in particular (as I'm just leaving mine in a few short months) you start to realize who you are and what you believe in even more.<BR/><BR/>I know that everyone has a different view point on this stuff, and sometimes I am on the fence about which candidate I really want- change/hope or what we know. I think that I understand some of the feelings you guys have about Obama in that I felt the same way when Clinton left office. We had eight years of what I feel to be the best economic and peaceful years during my lifetime. You are about the same age I was when Bush took office. I remember being very worried about what this unknown would bring. And I saw my fears realized in all that changed the next 7 years. The cost of that change, is now influencing the excitement you see around a positive mindset. Barack does inspire hope. That we can all do and have better.<BR/><BR/>And I really don't feel as many will vote based on color or gender FOR a candidate, as I am older than you both and have seen this dance before. The candidates this time had to be incredibly viable to OVERCOME their gender and race. No one else ever has accomplished this in my lifetime. Besides Obama is getting a huge women voter turnout and Clinton is getting a huge black voter turnout, so I don't think we are all simply backing our own.<BR/><BR/>We are just crazy idealists who think enough is enough as far as war, the ever shrinking middle class, jobs going overseas or south of the border to the cheapest bidder...etc...<BR/><BR/>And as always...we agree to disagree and I still love you both:)Zen Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00986709498184115924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-44083079864293160312008-02-24T14:57:00.000-05:002008-02-24T14:57:00.000-05:00I agree that this is an amazing country where you ...I agree that this is an amazing country where you can have and express your thoughts and beliefs without fear of persecution. It is great, isn't it?!<BR/><BR/>Barack is an intelligent person, never said he wasn't. And it is good that he's actually being attentive during the debates. However, in your fear of people voting <I>against</I> him b/c of his race, I have the same fear that many will vote <I>for</I> him b/c of his race (and for Clinton b/c of her gender). People say "Nah. There aren't that many out there that are like that." However, I think they're being slightly naive. I've heard countless people say they're going to vote for Hillary based solely on her gender. They have NO idea what she stands for or believes in.<BR/><BR/>As with anything, it's the extremists of the group that give others the impression of their "goodness" or "badness." I don't believe ALL Muslims are bad. I know a few and they're not crazy like some. It's those extremists who say their religion is one of "peace" and at the same time have NO qualms about beheading people "in the name of Allah." There is a movement that wants <A HREF="http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/08/top_ten_reasons_why_sharia_is.html" REL="nofollow">Sharia Law</A>to become OUR law here in America....and anywhere there is freedom. That frightens me. <BR/><BR/>I also don't believe all liberals are nutjobs. It's those extremists who want everything to be equal for everybody. But you know what? We already HAVE equality. Everyone has the same freedom to make their life what they want it to be. Some <I>choose</I> to remain where they are while others do anything and everything in their power to make a better life for themselves and for their family. Plus, I don't think that you can make things equal and still remain a free society. I think it's just impossible.<BR/><BR/>On to health care. I believe the gov't should not be involved. If the gov't did get out, then the ins co's and drug co's wouldn't have to grease the palms of the gov't in order to get what they want. <BR/><BR/>Also, employers don't have to provide health insurance, as well as employees don't have to take it. One could purchase their own plan and not the one of their employer. I did that and it worked for what I needed until I was eligible for it where I worked. <BR/><BR/>I just don't see how the gov't "giving" us health care is going to work. Who's going to pay for it? We are! So what's the difference? We pay for many to have Medicaid already. Now we'll have to pay for <I>everyone</I>?! Doesn't seem right to me.<BR/><BR/>I guess I am just finding out that I am more conservative than I thought. Although, not an extreme conservative! And I do appreciate the differences we all have b/c if we were all the same, we wouldn't be able to have wonderful discussions like this! :)<BR/><BR/>Hope you're feeling better!!!Design Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03294606614800938784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-69144867878753459762008-02-24T12:22:00.000-05:002008-02-24T12:22:00.000-05:00Tigs,Thanks for your detailed comments.Of course I...Tigs,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your detailed comments.<BR/><BR/>Of course I have been leaning liberal all my life, placing civil rights above private corporations. This has led me to never be able to stray to the right, even being married to a conservative former Army major.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, my husband and I sit comfortably side by side, with him to my right, and me to his left. On most issues we are amazingly in sync, which keeps us engaged in an easy discourse during this incredibly exciting election period.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Regarding health care, having worked in the field for over 10 years, I have a different perspective. I would like to see privatized insurance made competitive by letting the people purchase it directly, rather than employers dictating what benefits, if any, we can choose from. I would like to see it change to the way fire, auto, and life insurance are run, an a la cart system if you will.<BR/><BR/>But...I do feel all should be entitled to affordable health care, and as long as the insurance cos and pharmaceutical cos have a hold on DC, that just won't happen. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, speaking of illnesses, I am very ill, just out of bed for the first time since Fri night. So that's the best response I can offer you at the present moment :)<BR/><BR/>Hugs to you,<BR/><BR/>ZZen Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00986709498184115924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18091740.post-17469036622679309772008-02-24T10:08:00.000-05:002008-02-24T10:08:00.000-05:00I have enjoyed reading your viewpoint on Mr Obama....I have enjoyed reading your viewpoint on Mr Obama. <BR/><BR/>The few things I see that he "stands" go against my conservative core. I do no want more government in my life. Less is best. Our country thrived on less government all through its history. Now, our government wants to legislate health care. <BR/><BR/>Being a part of a partial national health care system as an army wife, I find that what they are asking for is downright crazy. There are certain things our health care doesn't want to cover b/c they don't see it as life changed or necessary. Well, if the doctors didn't ask for then I would agree. Having just a family doctor as your OB/GYN instead of a doctor specilaized in that field scares me. Especially if there are complications that a family doctor would not know to look for. There have been babies born with major problems b/c the family doctor didn't realize the baby was in danger, an OB would have. Now these children will have challenges in front of the for the rest of their lives and who do they have to thank.... the US Army and their insurance company.<BR/><BR/>Requiring you to purchase or sign up for their health care program while they are not too is just out right wrong. Why should the American people have to wait for life changing proceedures or medicines all the while they are able to go to any dr they want, have the necessary surgeries they need, and benefit from the private sector? <BR/><BR/> We need to be able to make our own decisions and quit letting the courts, congress, and yes, the President make them for us. The more we let our government into our lives, the more they control. The more they control the more freedoms we loose. The more freedoms we loose the less of a Republic we become. When this happens we have totaliarian rule. This is not what I want for my sons or their families in the future. <BR/><BR/>I apologize for the long post, but I just wanted to share my thoughts w/ you too. HUGS!!!!!!Melanie Miday-Sternhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01066635258362116624noreply@blogger.com